I have a pair of Century L-100's and I haven't heard a speaker I like better, but I was looking at a pair of L-112's that were for sale near my house. The seller couldn't hook them up for me at the time, but reading up on these-- they've been reviewed well. Spec-wise I think they can handle alot more power, but I know handling more power doesn't necessarily mean better sound. I know everyone has their own musical & sound preferences, I just wanted to see what the majority of people prefered.
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I've never heard the 112s, but IIRC most folks seem to prefer them as a more balanced speaker over the L100s. I'd certainly give them a solid listen; take a receiver over and check them out.
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Not to put too blunt of a point on it... but IMHO, the L100 is akin to a playtoy compared to the L112. Not a bad speaker, but not up to the level of the L112.
OTOH, the 120Ti spanks them both... the 120Ti is just a quantum leap better than any of the L100/4311/4312 variants, and also better than the L112 or L166...
Regards, Gordon.
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never saw a 120ti... I did see a L-150 on ebay recently for like $900. Anyone got any ideas on that one? looks like its got an extra passive radiator?
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L-112's over the L-100's. They are mirrored imaged, much improved/ behaved xover, smoother seemles sound. The 044 tweeter is an improvement too but I do still like the Alnico 123A woofers and LE5-2 mids in the L100-s DC
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Not even close!
The L112's will whip the pants off of a pair of L100's!
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They are apples and oranges. One is a control monitor with tailored response, the original L100. The other is the Century 2 with improved drivers and crossover and a flatter response with a more extended high end. So what do you want, the dorm speakers you lusted over or the newer and improved version??
Rob:beer:
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Who are the misinformed individuals voting for the L-100? :scratch2: :nono: :scratch2:
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L-100 gets my vote, but it's based on my bias for that original JBL sound. I was a authorized JBL repair tech back around 1976 and sold and repaired lots of L-100's and the pro studio model, the 4311. Always alot of rockers blowing out that paper cone tweeter with small power receivers cranked way past the clipping point of their units.
The punch and dynamics of the L-100/4311's drove many rock n rollers estatic! Granted, not a flat response, but not designed to be. And ya just gotta love that original white cone 12" driver. A true classic!
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AMPHEAD said:
L-100 gets my vote, but it's based on my bias for that original JBL sound. I was a authorized JBL repair tech back around 1976 and sold and repaired lots of L-100's and the pro studio model, the 4311. Always alot of rockers blowing out that paper cone tweeter with small power receivers cranked way past the clipping point of their units.
The punch and dynamics of the L-100/4311's drove many rock n rollers estatic! Granted, not a flat response, but not designed to be. And ya just gotta love that original white cone 12" driver. A true classic!Amen!! A true classic!!
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AMPHEAD said:
Uhmmm, L112 woofer's white.
Pretend it also has L100's fake bass.
[It does, actually, when played 2-Pi.... ]
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Stegnick said:
The L150As use the same 128H woofer as the L112s ... haven't compared the other drivers [I suspect one of the JBL experts can tell you off the top of their head] ... I am lucky enough to own a pair of each [although the PRs need refoaming] ...
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L150 also has the same mid, tweeter and crossover as the L112. Only the cabinet [and the extra passive radiator] is different. More bottom end extension, same speaker otherwise.
Regards, Gordon.
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Zilch. I referred to the L-100's white coated woofer as the original white 12" in reference to the fact it was the first in the line the L-100 series, not that it was the only one. The L-112, though I have heard them, were well after my time as a JBL repair tech. I claim no familiarity with that particular driver.
However, I replaced, re-coned, and worked on many L-100 and 4311's drivers. The bass emphasis in the L-100 was designed in, from recording studio tech’s request for such a “hump” in the response curve of the pro version # 4311 monitor
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The 4310 [and from hence, the 4311 and L100] was apparently designed to have acceptable bass "impact" when in free-space, on top of a console out in the middle of a room. So, to do that, it needed a "hump" in the bottom end... kind of a "baffle step compensation" in the acoustical realm, to "acoustic EQ" the bottom end back up. AFAIK, this is the most reasonable explanation for the bass tuning of the L100...
And yes, the L100 sounds MUCH better, on 15" tall stands, out in the room, AWAY FROM ANY WALLS... even in a home setup...
Regards, Gordon.
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GordonW said:
Yup.
More detail with links further down in that thread, for interested readers.... :thmbsp:
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It does seem insiginificant, doesn't it? In fact, tho, it's the broadband variations like that which establish the "voice" of the speaker. Other major elements of 4311 are the rising midrange and rolled-off highs shown there.
I believe the 4311 curve is anechoic, freespace. Add boundary reinforcement to that as illustrated in the L112 curves [4-Pi vs. 2-Pi,] or the L150 curve [2-Pi,] and 4311/L100 becomes the boomer we all know and love/hate. :thmbsp: